1911 Irish census records online

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This morning I recalled that the National Archives in Dublin have made their census records for 1911 freely available online for counties Dublin, Kerry, Antrim and Down, so I thought I would seek out the returns made by my Co. Antrim ancestors. My entire paternal side all hail from Co. Antrim – but in terms of direct ancestors this translates into just two households as all my great-great-grandparents on that side are deceased by 1911.

I must congratulate those behind this project for the Census search interface is very responsive and easy to use. You can browse the records by drilling down through County » District Electoral Division (DED) » Townland, which will show a listing of all the households in a townland. There is plenty of room for improvement, however. A small gripe is that there is no interactive map interface when you browse, so some knowledge of place names and geography is required.

There also appears to be a major inconsistency about the use of spaces in names prefixed with O, Mac and Mc. This caused me some serious head-scratching when searching for my McGAREL ancestors. By browsing their townland I discovered that their names had been entered as Mc GARRELL – the variant wouldn’t have hindered me, but I was completely thrown by the space.

To make matters worse, one can’t search for names with spaces without enclosing the name in quotes. Here are the number of individuals returned for the following Co. Antrim searches:

  • McGAREL: 20
  • McGARRELL: 0
  • Mc GARRELL: 10260 (that’s anything with either Mc or Garrell
  • “Mc GARRELL”: 26 (including my relations)
  • “Mc GAREL”: 0

My Co. Antrim pedigree, starting with my father on the left

John Gerard MULVENNA
b. 1931 Gowkstown, Glenarm
John MULVENNA
b. 1891 Gowkstown, Glenarm
d. 1963
Daniel MULVENNA
b. 1857 Deerpark, Glenarm
d. 1929
Patrick MULVENNA
b. 1822 Deerpark, Glenarm

d. 1878

Elizabeth GIBSON
b. 1826 Gowkstown, Glenarm
d. 1899
Catherine MATTHEWS
b. 1848 Campbelltown, Cairncastle
d. 1934
John MATTHEWS
b. 1805 Briarfield, Glenarm
d. 1869
Catherine MULVENNA
b. 1804
d. 1894
Agnes McGAREL
b. 1896 Deerpark, Glenarm
d. 1961
Arthur McGAREL
b. 1865
d. 1939
Arthur McGAREL
b. 1820 Ballyrickard, Raloo
d. 1910
mother unknown
Elizabeth MORROW
b. 1866 Kanestown, Glenarm
d. 1922
William John MORROW
b. 1828 Kanestown, Glenarm
d. 1892
Margaret ROBINSON
b. 1828 Kanestown, Glenarm
d. 1889

Constructing a HTML table (making extensive use of the rowspan attribute) to display a pedigree chart is quite a brain-teaser. I have Diana Gale Matthiesen’s website to thank for helping get my head around it.

Looking at the pedigree above, I can see that by 1911 none of my great-great-grandparents are living, so the households of two sets of great-grandparents is what I’m looking for, namely: Daniel MULVENNA & Catherine MATTHEWS in the townland of Gowkstown, Glenarm and Arthur McGAREL & Elizabeth MORROW in the townland of Deerpark, Glenarm.

Daniel MULVENNA / Catherine MATTHEWS, Gowkstown, Glenarm, Co. Antrim

My great-grandfather was known as Dan O’Gowkstown – he and Catherine had 9 children (confirmed by searching the birth registration records many years ago). The full family group is shown in the table below.

Name Born Died Comment
Daniel MULVENNA 1857 20 Apr 1929 married Catherine MATTHEWS of Campbelltown, Cairncastle in 1876
Catherine MATTHEWS 1848 9 Aug 1934
Mary MULVENNA 23 Feb 1878 married Arthur GIBSON of Libbert in 1906
Charles MULVENNA 29 Aug 1879 1942 married Sarah GIBSON of Libbert in 1921
Rosena Catherine MULVENNA 17 Aug 1881 married Francis CAMPBELL of Deerpark
John MULVENNA 26 May 1883 6 Mar 1885
Patrick MULVENNA 31 Jan 1886 June 1913 Patrick was one of 8 people killed when the Canadian Pacific Express crashed while heavily loaded with emigrants near Ottawa, Canada in 1913
Elizabeth MULVENNA 18 Oct 1887 1958 married Frank J SMITH and died in San Francisco
Martha MULVENNA 21 Oct 1889 married William HAMILL and died in New York
John MULVENNA 29 Oct 1891 1 Mar 1963 married Agnes McGAREL of Deerpark in 1923 and remained on the family farm in Gowkstown
Maggie MULVENNA 13 Oct 1894 22 Apr 1934 married Neal McGAVOCK of Deerpark in 1912

Being economical with the years?

You can see by comparing the dates above with the census return below that nearly all the children’s ages have been “compressed” by 2 years. Both the parents in the household are reported to be 56 on 2 April 1911. Daniel was actually 54 and Catherine was probably 63. Nearly all the children are 2 years older than reported on the census – e.g. John and Maggie were actually 19 and 16 respectively as opposed to 17 and 15 recorded on the census. Daniel and Catherine were married on 22 September 1876 but the census reports they have been married 32 years.

I researched the tragic 1913 rail crash in Canada, where Patrick was killed and the Irish News gives his age as 25, although he would have actually been 27. Curious.

Update: talk of pension affecting 1911 census ages?

Hugh Hamilton makes the point in the comments that talk of a new government pension scheme is thought to have motivated some people to inflate their ages on the 1911 census. I’ve gone back to check their entry on the 1901 census to check out this theory. In nearly all the cases, younger ages have been recorded, usually by about 2 years. I reckon the most likely reason is that Daniel based the ages on his eldest being born when he was 21 and worked his way back from that point. Children still of school age generally have their age recorded accurately.

Name 1901 ages 1911 ages
Census Actual Census Actual
Daniel 46 44 56 54
Catherine 46 53 56 63
Mary 21 23 291 33
Charles 19 21 n/a2 31
Rosena 17 19 263 29
Patrick 15 15 23 25
Elizabeth 13 13 21 23
Martha 11 11 19 21
John 9 9 17 19
Maggie 6 6 15 16

1In 1911, Mary was married to Arthur Gibson and living in the Libbert.
2In 1911, Rosena was married to Frank Campbell and living in Deerpark.
3Charles Mulvenna couldn’t be located on the Irish 1911 census. According to my uncle Anthony, Charles made money in America. He married Sarah Gibson of the Libbert in 1921.

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Arthur McGarel / Elizabeth Morrow, Deerpark, Glenarm, Co. Antrim

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Name Born Died Comment
Arthur McGAREL 1865 30 Jan 1939 married Elizabeth MORROW of Kanestown, Glenarm in 1886
Elizabeth MORROW 8 Sep 1866 6 Jun 1922
Maggie McGAREL 25 Dec 1886
Jane McGAREL 10 Jan 1889 married Charles MULVENNA of Deerpark in 1914
Arthur McGAREL 19 May 1891 11 Apr 1967 married Margaret MULVENNA of Deerpark
David McGAREL 30 Jan 1894
Agnes McGAREL 6 Jul 1896 8 Sep 1961 married John MULVENNA of Gowkstown in 1923
John Joseph McGAREL 18 May 1899 married Kate McKILLOP in 1927
Owen McGAREL 4 Nov 1901
Samuel McGAREL 20 Jan 1904
Elizabeth McGAREL 14 Nov 1906 married Mick FORSYTHE in 1927

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17 thoughts on “1911 Irish census records online”

  1. Hi Gerry, I to have found the dates on the 1911 census do not correspond with marriage certificates etc that I have already got and I had some dates on the 1901 census and by the time it reached 1911 my granny was now 2 years older then my granda. Also most of my relatives had their ages changed by 2 years as well.

    I see that my 2nd cousin Francis Campbell married your relative Rosena Catherine Mulvenna.I must say I was very excited when I found them on the 1911 census as I had already received a lot of info from Felix McKillop

    I would just like to say that your website has been very helpful in tracing a lot of dates and I would like to say thank you.

    regard

    Yvonne Dowling

  2. the stewart mulvenna carpenter from larne
    and the daniel mulvenna from gawkstown mentioned
    in patrick mulvennas will. must have been cousins;
    stewart [my great grandfather]was born 1835
    his father was called charles according to r’c records glenarm carnlough
    he was married to elenor stewart about1806
    i m assuming he had a brother which would be your great great grandfather
    thats the only explanation i cancome up with

  3. Hi Gerry,

    My great-grandfather John Mulvenna emigrated to America in the later 19th Century. He was born circa 1870 and settled in Philadelphia. His family came from Belfast. His mother’s name had Stewart in it, though I don’t know if it was her maiden name. She died in January 1918. He had several siblings in Belfast that remained. One of the nieces was named Rose, and the other was Ellen. Another clue: colorblindness runs in my family. Does any of this ring any bells for you?

  4. Hi@Regina thanks for posting a comment. I have quite a lot of birth / marriage / death data for MULVENNAs and McILVENNAs in Ireland, kindly gifted to me from the research of Matt McILVENNA. What do you know of John’s parents? Did John’s mother die in Belfast? There aren’t actually too many John MULVENNAs born in Belfast circa 1870 – is the Belfast birthplace definite or approximate, do you think?

    There’s a Rose MULVENNA d.1918, Belfast aged 75, but I only have index info, so I don’t know if she was married or a spinster.

  5. Gerry,
    Hello Cousin
    My GG Grandmother was Mary Gibson(sister to Elizabeth), Do you have Charles Gibson 1796-1877 and Mary McKay 1793-1865 as their parents?

  6. My “reply” is not working for some reason.

    We live In Reading, Pennsylvania – about an hour from Philadelphia. Send me your email at Wolfe****@****.com and I’ll invite you to my Ancestory tree. My GG grandfather was was John McErlean (16 deerpark Farms). I believe they lived next farm over from Patrick and Elizabeth.

  7. Generally the ages on the 1901 census tend to be more accurate. In 1911 there was talk of a new government pension and people thought thay by increasing their age by a few years they would help their chances of getting the pension. I have found this on many of the family records which I have looked at.

  8. @Hugh Hamilton Thanks for that interesting angle. I looked up the 1901 census (see update above) and my MULVENNA ages are still a bit off, mostly reduced by 2 years for the children, so there’s probably something else going on.

  9. Hi Gerry,

    my paternal grandfather was Patrick Mulvenna; his parents were Robert and Mary Mulvenna (nee Hamill), married in St MacNissi’s in Larne in 1886. Wonder why the name change? My dad was adopted!

    Patrick was born in 1895 in Scotland, and twice lived in Canada, fighting for the Canadians in the First World War. He came back to Scotland, married, and my dad was born in the 1940s.

    I think we may be related. The witness at Robert Mulvenna and Mary’s marriage was a Daniel Mulvenna. I checked all this out on Ulster Genealogy, pay-per-view records. Have you tried these records?

  10. Hi Gerry

    My Great Great Grandmother was Martha Louisa Gertrude Mulvenna and was born on the 18th October 1868 at Deerpark, Glenarm. She married Samuel McCartney on the 25th February 1895. This was his second marriage his first wife having died. Martha and Samuel had children, Alice, Thomas (my Grandfather), and Gertrude. I understand that Samuel and Martha were made wards of court for Martha’s sister, Elizabeth (Tierney) sister’s children when she and her husband were killed. Martha moved to Dublin with her children after Samuel died and then years later moved to Nairobi, Kenya with her daughter Gertrude to be near her son Tom’s family – Alice by then had died.

    I was really interested in the colour blindness – both my brother and I are colour blind, so maybe there is a family connection.

    Am thinking about going over to Northern Ireland to do some more research but anything you or any other family members may have to add to my links would be most welcome.

  11. @Irene Jeffery
    Thanks for posting Irene. It’s great to hear from you as I researched quite a lot about Martha and Samuel in the 90s when I did most of my family history research. I’ll drop you an email.

  12. Hello Gerry, My Great Aunt was Jane Kelly Mulvenna, married to John Mulvenna, born 1885 and passed away in Illinois in 1978. My Great Uncle by Marriage was born in Deerpark Glenarm, County Antrim. I am trying to find my Aunt Jane Kelly Mulvenna’s relatives. My Father’s name was Daniel Kelly, from Carnlough, Co. Antrim and married Ann McQuillan in Chicago Illinois in 1957

  13. Looking for some ancestry search In Glenarm Co. Antrim The name I had would be my great great grandfather James Parke Married Sara Decan in I believe Presbyterian Church in Antrim I under stand you may have records around 1830 s Thankyou Dan Park FL>USA

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